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The Commander Club utilize the
YahooGroups service to exchange questions and
answers among members.
A sample of the most recent
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Rules of Conduct
We do not want to make long lists
of things you can and cannot do. We have tried to
keep it to a minimum and urge you to use common
sense. It is a talent used by sailors for hundreds
of years around the globe. It usually works.
Why Rules of Conduct?
The mail list and discussion
forum constitute the Chris Craft Commander Club’s
single most valuable asset. It is the tool that
makes it possible for us all to exchange ideas with
lots of other knowledgeable people devoted to
preserving an enjoying Chris Craft Commanders.
There are three cornerstones that together make this
tool so valuable.
First, it is our ability to maintain focus on
the subject for which the CCCC was originally
created, that is Chris Craft Commanders.
Second, it is the so-called network effect
that results when a lot of people get together on
the same subject. It is a common saying that the
value of a network (i.e. the CCCC) equals
approximately the square of the number of users of
the system (n2). Hence the value of the club
(network) expands with the number of users.
Third, mutual trust is essential in order to
get some value out of the network and the focus.
Therefore, the rules of conduct for the CCCC mail
list and discussion forum at YahooGroups is aimed
solely at protecting these cornerstones from
degrading and thus indirectly jeopardizing the club.
Item 1: Commander talk only!
All who joined this group joined because they wanted
to learn more about Commanders and/or to share their
experience. Let’s keep it at that. If the discussion
in the list or the forum deviates too much and too
often from Commander talk, some people will lose
interest and leave. Of course, exchange of
information on closely related subjects (i.e.
equipment, engines, materials, procedures, cruising
information, etc) is OK as long as they are directly
applicable to Chris Craft Commanders.
Typically you should avoid other subjects like cars,
fishing, other hobbies, houses, children, family,
your work, your boss, etc. Topics strictly forbidden
include religion and politics. There are other
venues for this type of discussion.
Item 2: Be friendly, be helpful,
and be honest
We are all in this because we want to have fun,
therefore be friendly and helpful. If you think you
may have an answer to a question posed by someone
else, by all means contribute. If you don't have
time to deliver the answer now, please send an
e-mail to the person asking the question, stating
that you will come back with the answer later. Take
care when delivering your suggestions, people
reading them may not be able to distinguish between
an educated guess and an expert's statement.
You may not like everybody in the group, but nothing
is gained by criticizing that person in a message to
the whole group. Send him/her a private e-mail or
call him/her on the phone.
Item 3: No commercials please
The mail list and the forum is not a marketing and
advertising tool for companies or people in the
marine industry, or any other industry for that
matter. Do not try to sell things or services via
the list or forum.
Of course, if you are a
member of the group and you wish to sell your boat,
post your ad on the Commander Club website. It's
FREE!
Members of the marine industry who are
also members of the CCCC are more than welcome to
provide specific answers or to suggest solutions
when the question is raised by another member.
Item 4: No high-jacking please
The value of being a member is
closely associated with the number of other members.
It is therefore not acceptable if a member or group
of members systematically use the mail list or the
forum to market other clubs or services that could
be regarded as a competitor to the CCCC, it’s mail
list, discussion forum or website.
This does not prevent individual
members from freely posting links or making
reference to personal websites, personal blogs, or
other relevant points of interest.
Item 4: Photos and files should
be archive friendly
Attaching photos or other files that can augment
your posts is now, more than ever, highly
appreciated. However, in order to properly save
these important images in the official Chris-Craft
Commander Club archives, it is recommended that you
adapt your photos and file size so that your
attachments are "archive friendly". We recommend at
least 1024 x 768 and 250 KB as an "Archive Friendly"
size. Photos can be adapted by any image editing
software. Send emails with attached photos to:
cccommander@yahoogroups.com
As of May 2009,
Yahoo has dramatically improved our photo
capabilities on Yahoogroups. There is now a greater
opportunity to share and enjoy photos on the
official Chris-Craft Commander forum. No longer will
you be forced to upload your photos to a photo
hosting site like photobucket.com because of photos
size or quantity. Simply attach photos to your email
(send email with attached photos to:
cccommander@yahoogroups.com) and they will be
automatically archived on the commander club's yahoo
site. The photo section of our yahoo site offers
slideshow capabilities as well as a 'permalink'
feature so you can always link back to your photos.
The photos can be found under "attachments" at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cccommander/
Item 5: Copyright & enhancement
of published posts
When posting information, data files, photos,
drawings etc. to the mail list or forum, please be
aware that the CCCC reserves the right to republish
all such information via other forms of media such
as print-outs, newsletters, club websites, CD-ROMs,
or other digital media. In the process of
publishing, the CCCC has the right to reorganize and
enhance all information provided in posts in order
to make the information easily accessible in the
media format of choice. In any of these cases or
other similar cases, you are not entitled to any
reimbursement or fee for your contribution nor can
you make any copyright claims towards the CCCC or
its representatives. This is our way of ensuring
free sharing of ideas and know-how among members.
The rights of the CCCC to re-use information
does not mean that the same rights are granted
automatically to all other members. If you want to
re-use information, photos etc. posted by other
members on your website, another discussion forum or
mail list, you are strongly recommended to get the
approval to do so from the originating member.
Item 6: Disclaimer
All information, opinions and advice shared by club
members via the mail list or forum does not
constitute expert advice. Anyone acting on comments
posted must take full responsibility for the
resulting outcome.
Item 7: Sanctions in the rare
cases they are needed
If a club member fails to comply
with the items described above, the Executive
Committee of the CCCC reserves the right to take the
following progressive actions:
1. In the
first instance the Webmaster of the Executive
Committee has the right to send a warning to the
member. The warning shall contain information about
which rule of conduct has been broken along with a
request to comply in the future.
2. If the
same member posts more messages in violation of the
rules of conduct within the next 90 days, the
Webmaster has the right to moderate the member's
postings before they are published to the mail list
or the forum. Moderation of a post shall be limited
to approving or rejecting the post in its entirety,
not editing the content. The member shall be
notified by the webmaster of the change to
'Moderated' status. Moderated status can be removed
when deemed suitable by the Webmaster.
3. If
a member continues posting messages that are in
violation of the rules of conduct, or if a member in
other ways is creating - or threatening to create-
substantial damage to the CCCC, the member can be
permanently removed from the list. Such a decision
must be supported by a majority of the Executive
Committee members.
There are a couple of
situations when a member can be removed or put under
'Moderated' status from the list without prior
warning:
A. If it is evident the member has
no intention of complying with any of the rules of
conduct.
AND/OR
B. The member is
trying to use the list, the forum, or the membership
list to launch or market a similar community as the
CCCC or any kind of commercial product or service
and it is clear that the posted information was not
an answer to a specific question posted by an
individual member.
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